Some questions on THAT 9-3

Does Saab have some friends in the Swedish Motor Branch?

And what is that car we saw, really?

The 9-3 shown in those Aftonbladet photos in the last few days was registered BYW 331. Fortunately the Swedish motor registry allows people to look up a vehicles details according to the registration number.

There’s been numerous details outlined in comments to the photos, and I’ll summarise a few of the important details here (thanks to all who took the trouble to look them up):

Regnr: BYW331
Färg: SVART
Fabrikat: SAAB
Årsmodell: 2007
Fordonsslag: PB
Chassinummer: YS3FH51P589000006
Senaste EU-regbevis: 20070119

Namn: SAAB AUTOMOBILE AKTIEBOLAG
Adress:
Postnr: 461 80
Förvärvsdatum: 2007-01-08
Ort: TROLLHÄTTAN

I trafik första gång: 2007-01-12
Drivmedel: DIESEL

So according to the registry it’s a Saab 9-3 SportCombi with a 1.9 TiD. I’d never have questioned the record, though the dual exhaust was a point of interest for me.

HOWEVER….

I’ve had some advice from Djup Strupe (my many-faced Saab insider) that according to the Chassis Number supplied, the details are quite possibly something else.

The Chassis number is YS3FH51P589000006

According to Djup Strupe we have the following information clashes:

1) The ‘P’ in the number is a bit of a mystery. There are a number of engine codes and P isn’t a current one. It was last used to denote the B204S engine.

2) The ‘8’ indicates that it’s a MY08 chassis rather than the 2007 model noted.

3) The number indicates that it’s fitted with a 6-speed auto, but the B204S has only ever had a 5speed mated to it in manual form, so this is quite likely some sort of new engine and gearbox combination.

Interesting stuff.

Djup Strupe’s full breakdown on the VIN:

YS3FH51P589000006:

YS3- Saab Sweden
F- 9-3
H- Aero Spec
5- Combi
1- 6 speed Auto
P- Unknown- last used to denote B204 Engine
5- ?
8- MY08
9000006- Serial Number

So, has anyone else got an idea as to what the P might be used for in a more modern context?

The current 9-3 engine codes are as follows:

V is 1.9 120
W is 1.9 150
B is 1.8i
F is 1.8t
S is 2.0t
Y is 2.0T
U is the 2.8 V6
P is an unknown ‘Diesel’ Engine?

Could it possibly be……… dare I even suggest it might be…… you know, well, the car is black, after all…

Any info is welcome in comments.

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17 Comments

  1. I was suggesting in comments that this could be a mule for the all new 9-4x….But the unnamed mistory car sound more what we all need….

  2. I remember GM experimenting with a high performance 1.9TDi with twin turbos in the Astra and Vectra, maybe it is a high power diesel varient.

    If I recall correctly, the twin turbo diesels in the concept cars were hitting over 200bhp, 215bhp if my memory is really good 🙂 Can anyone confirm?

  3. The ‘P’ engine is indeed the before-rumoured highperformance diesel engine; probably 175-200 bhp. It could well be the twin-turbo 190 bhp 1.9 TiD that was shown in an Opel Astra concept car, last year.

  4. If I’m not mistaken, the 11th digit signifies the plant in which it was made. 9 represents prototype workshop, but I think that was sort of implied 😛

  5. Twin-Turbo Revolutionizes Diesel Engine Technology

    There is up to 50 percent more power or 25 percent less fuel consumption with the two-stage turbocharged diesel passenger cars. The 1.9-liter CDTI twin-turbo engine which produces 156 kW (212 hp) per liter displacement is a world record for turbo-diesel powered passenger cars. The 1.9 CDTI twin-turbo unit starts to deliver its maximum torque of 400 Nm at only 1400 rpm, complies with Euro 4 exhaust emission standards, and uses only 6.0 liters of diesel fuel per 100 kilometers in the European test cycle.

    This advance heralds the next big step in the development of modern diesel engines for passenger cars. The heart of this innovation is the forced aspiration of the engine through two exhaust-driven turbochargers, which, unlike ‘biturbo’ systems, operate sequentially rather than in parallel. Thanks to its superior efficiency, the TWINTURBO system can achieve an extremely high output – up to 50 percent more than a conventional diesel engine – without having the disadvantage of higher fuel consumption and exhaust emissions. Alternatively, the system can be adapted for maximum consumption efficiency, meaning a reduction in fuel consumption of up to 25 percent is possible with constant power output.

    http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/sustainability/reports/05/400_products/2_twenty/420e.html

  6. just a thought: V6 diesel, 3 litre? the old one out of the 9-5 range? propably tuned up to around 200bhp. at opel/vauxhall it’s actually in production with 180bhp.

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