Spyker Vs Saab, Victor Muller, Porsche-Porsche-Porsche and GM’s Recall

So the results from the Saab vs Spyker poll from last week – i.e……

Which car do you think we’ll see available for sale first?

  • The Spyker B6 Venator, or
  • An electric Saab?
  • …. were almost split down the middle. Spyker held a handy lead right from the get-go but the Saab pollsters chimed in later and the result evened out by the end.

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    Thanks for your participation. I’m very keen to see which one will actually be built first. Actually, I’m keen to see if either of them will be built at all.

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    In related news, Autoweek has an interesting feature article on Spyker and Victor Muller.

    The article is about Spyker, but it does touch on the Saab years:

    He couldn’t help but describe the experience in Biblical terms. “It was hell on Earth,” he said, taking care to emphasize every word. “The years 2010 and 2011 can only be described as hell on earth. Dante’s Inferno. I gave everything humanly possible to try and save my company. And I think a little bit more than that. And I almost killed myself in the process. It was hell.”

    I can vouch for that. I’ve never seen someone work harder and the price he paid in terms of his health and his family was excessive.

    It’s a good read and yes, I’m still cheering for VM to make it work.

    Saab, too.

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    18 new Saabs have been registered to private customers in Sweden this year.

    As plenty of people have pointed out, the 9-3 was still a great car when it ceased production in 2011 and is, by all reports, still a good new car as made by NEVS today. But that’s according to the opinions of people who aren’t stumping up their own money to buy one. For those who are, the shortcomings attributable to the car’s age seem to be a stumbling block.

    This path was always, always fraught with danger. A lack of engagement, a lack of feasible planning, a lack of sales and now the lack of a major investor have me very worried for our little Swedish brand.

    Thanks to ctm for the sales info, via comments.

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    Would you like an update on the GM Recall that will make you shudder and laugh at the same time?

    I thought so. There’s a slight language warning with this one. And it goes on a little too long, but it’s still worth a look.

    Just another reason I’ll never buy a car designed and made by General Motors. (with the minor possible exception, one day, of a Saab 9-3 or 9-5 wagon).

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    Some car designs we like, and some we don’t. Designers DO usually get it right, however, a point that’s only emphasised when you see their early design attempts at a particular model.

    For example, here’s how the Porsche 911 might have looked…..

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    And here’s the concept car that spawned the Spyker C8 Laviolette:

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    They’re always interesting to see, but thank goodness the designers kept working on them 🙂

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    And a little more Porsche, for those who like short films dedicated to old cars drifting in the snow….

    The guy featured in this film is Jeff Zwart (and I love the smile on his face in the driving shots – it’s what driving old cars is all about). He’s made films and photos of a lot of exotic cars over the years, as well as driven cars hard in various events, including Pike’s Peak.

    He recently released a book about the Porsche 917 and it shows off his photography skills almost as much as it shows off the car. Delicious.

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    And briefly, on my own Porsche shory…..

    Parts have now arrived for my next major job – upgrading to M030 suspension. That’ll happen next month and I have a very special test drive planned to evaluate the changes 🙂

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    12 Comments

    1. I had the pleasure of meeting Victor when he was at the North Olmsted Saab dealership (Collection Auto Group) as he had promised them for March 10, 2011. I think he was approaching 24 hours without sleep but was pleasant and cheerful to everybody that approached him. I’m cheering for him too.

    2. That green 911… I suspect that *if* that had been the final design, it would still be iconic car today. Because then we would have had no idea about the one that turned out to be the final design.

      The Spyker concept… Wow… It looks like a sports car from government design bureau in Soviet Union circa 1988. 🙂

    3. That 911 is concept is beautiful. They ought to have put it into production as a GT variant of the final exquisite design they ended up with. In my humble opinion.

      Re an earlier article about Saab facelifts, for me the 911 is the quintessential example of a design that began beautifully, was updated sensitively until around 1973, but then by the mid-80s had transformed into a toy car on steroids driven by entertainingly insecure playboys.

    4. Love the GM recall script…….

      Memo to GM, what goes around mates, come’s around. Now you can have the Sh*t, like you chucked at Saab,. Oh, perhaps if you had contacted Saab engineers they would have seen the problems coming, instead of the Chinese junk you now use…

      What goes around mates, come’s around…….

    5. I do love the 356 film. Good stuff. I feel somehow the same way with my 1991 Saab 900 — it’s something that more modern cars aren’t, and that’s a good thing.

    6. As for the Saab sales figure and immediate future – the local paper TTela reports that NEVS are scheduling a production rate of six cars per day for the rest of the year once the production stoppage is through. They were aiming for twenty cars a day but are backing out of it.

      There doesn’t seem to be any point in designing a facelift model that conforms to pedestrian safety regulations, or re-introduce the sportcombi or cab anytime soon, if they aren’t even planning to ramp up the production numbers. Obviously they are out of funds to launch those model variants, and there’s a bit of a gauntlet just to survive.

      But I truly wonder whether there will ever be demand for six 9-3 Aeros a day.

    7. There certainly won’t be any demand for a car that has no advertising and no PR and from a company on the brink of insolvency.

    8. Totally unrelated but did you see this 96 V4 for sale on eBay? Only minutes left now and it’s at just over 10k.

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